Vladimir_Nesov comments on The Third Alternative - Less Wrong

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Comment author: PhilGoetz 19 September 2009 09:55:33PM *  1 point [-]

It's ugly, though. "They" is a plural. I just used it in my last post, but I didn't like doing it; now it is gender-sensitive, but ungrammatical.

I also used the phrase "a new man", because "a new person" doesn't have the history of use that invokes the noble/creepy feelings that I wanted to communicate. I couldn't think of any gender-neutral way around it.

If we took a vote, I'd vote for "it". It also has a nice, dehumanizing ring to it, which would probably be good, given our anthropic tendencies.

Comment author: Vladimir_Nesov 19 September 2009 10:06:23PM 3 points [-]

When you are speaking of people, "anthropic" is the right stance!

Comment author: PhilGoetz 19 September 2009 10:13:44PM 2 points [-]

What an anthropic thing to say!

"Anthropic" means human-centric. I want humans to think of "people" as a more general term, not as a synonym for "human".

Comment author: Vladimir_Nesov 19 September 2009 10:15:27PM 0 points [-]

People are human.

Comment author: PhilGoetz 19 September 2009 10:23:22PM 2 points [-]

That's not a statement with a true/false value; it's a philosophical/ethical assertion.

In any case, regardless of whether that statement is extensionally true at present, it will not be in the future, and we need to prepare for that future in advance.

Additionally, philosophy routinely finds it useful to ask hypothetical questions. Equipping ourselves with mental categories that make us incapable of comprehending hypotheticals about people from most possible worlds will lead to error.