Lumifer comments on Public Service Announcement Collection - Less Wrong

37 Post author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 27 June 2013 05:20PM

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Comment author: Lumifer 27 June 2013 08:41:42PM 26 points [-]

One of the basic P/S/As:

You can say no.

Comment author: gyokuro 27 June 2013 08:59:22PM 14 points [-]

Which might mean: By declining to do favors/tasks for people, you may feel like a selfish person, but limiting what work you take on you will reduce your stress, increase the quality of your work, and and increase your status. Plus you don't feel used or resent being helpful.

A good strategy could be to decline first, check schedules, then accept if possible: "I may be able to do that, but let me check my schedule first." Good for many situations.

Comment author: Lumifer 27 June 2013 09:11:30PM 3 points [-]

It's a very generic P/S/A , amenable to being understood in a multitude of ways :-)

Though my personal interpretation tends towards the resistance to conformity pressure (aka "going with the crowd") and/or defiance of authority.

Comment author: Qiaochu_Yuan 29 June 2013 02:40:48AM 4 points [-]

I doubt the LW crowd has a problem with resisting peer pressure and defying authority. If anything, I would expect them to have trouble with the opposite. So let's also say: "you can say yes." Peer pressure and authority are not inherently bad.

Comment author: Lumifer 29 June 2013 03:59:19AM 14 points [-]

I doubt your doubt :-) Resisting peer pressure is easy if it's not actually peer pressure -- if you can detach yourself and basically go "oh, I'm cooler/better than that". But resisting pressure from you true peers -- people you respect, people whose opinion you respect, people who you want to like you -- that is hard.

Same thing for defying authority. It's not a big deal to defy some assistant dean on college campus who's trying to enforce some obviously stupid rule. But not many people have the internal grit to stand up to real cops (who have zero problems with putting you in handcuffs and booking you on a variety of charges), real security services, people with real authority who actually have the power to screw up your life pretty badly.

No, peer pressure and authority are not inherently bad. But I would argue that the -- rare! -- ability to resist them when needed is a valuable feature of one's character. Knowing this ability exists is the first step.

Comment author: NancyLebovitz 29 June 2013 11:32:41AM 9 points [-]

And contracts can be negotiated. They generally aren't take it or leave it.