perturbation comments on Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality discussion thread, part 19, chapter 88-89 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: [deleted] 30 June 2013 04:37:39AM 5 points [-]

Why would Harry not send his Patronus to Dumbledore, or McGonagall in order to alert them that Hermione was in danger? Why would he not immediately time-turn (break the shell, it's supposed to be a deterrent and/or indication that you've obviously misused it, right?) before he had more information about what was going on?

I'm more upset now than when I read certain scenes in A Storm of Swords; I suppose congratulations are in order for that, but... damn. Do not want.

Comment author: NancyLebovitz 30 June 2013 12:57:31PM 6 points [-]

I'm more upset now than when I read certain scenes in A Storm of Swords

Not surprising-- it was clear from A Game of Thrones that Martin was writing That Sort of Universe, but HP:MOR has gone on for a much longer time (and possibly a higher proportion of the story) without that sort of death.

Comment author: MarkusRamikin 30 June 2013 07:06:49AM 4 points [-]

Do not want, indeed.

But as to time-turning, the shell would have been enchanted by someone stronger than him in magic, and I imagine he either couldn't do it at all, or couldn't do it without damaging the Time Turner itself.

Comment author: Qiaochu_Yuan 30 June 2013 04:51:16AM 4 points [-]

Why would Harry not send his Patronus to Dumbledore, or McGonagall in order to alert them that Hermione was in danger?

Mostly I think he was panicking. But I think he had reason to believe that they wouldn't react quickly enough and/or would force him not to look for Hermione.

Why would he not immediately time-turn

This I'm less clear about.

Comment author: shminux 30 June 2013 06:51:51AM -1 points [-]

"It wasn't 3pm yet so he couldn't reach this now using his Time-Turner"

Maybe he'll save her after 3pm.

Comment author: dthunt 30 June 2013 09:51:26AM 1 point [-]

Wait. I'm reading that again.

"This now?"

What emergency caused him to tap out using his time-turner on Thursday, anyway?

Comment author: fractalman 01 July 2013 10:26:32PM 3 points [-]

it opens at 9. he can go back as early as 3Pm.

Comment author: pr3sidentspence 04 June 2014 05:42:04PM 1 point [-]

Harry's patronus shattered when he saw Hermione's state. He was emotionally incapable of casting it.

Comment author: mare-of-night 30 June 2013 06:01:26PM 1 point [-]

Or ask Ron or someone else to send his patronus to ask Hermione where she is and tell her about the danger, back while he was still in the Great Hall. Even if no one present already knows how to send messages with patronuses, it didn't appear to take Draco long to learn once Harry told him how.