Alsadius comments on Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality discussion thread, part 19, chapter 88-89 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Alsadius 30 June 2013 05:10:49AM 8 points [-]

Do you think Harry would care even the tiniest bit about her losing her magic if she came back to life?

Comment author: maia 30 June 2013 04:27:54PM 18 points [-]

I mean... yes, but not enough to not bring her back to life.

Comment author: Qiaochu_Yuan 30 June 2013 05:20:50AM 2 points [-]

No. I mention that as an alternative hypothesis about what happened, but my dominant hypothesis is still that Hermione has lost her soul or whatever and so her body as it stands is information-theoretically dead. If Harry wants to bring her back to her life, he needs to track down her soul.

Comment author: Benja 30 June 2013 09:43:40AM 17 points [-]

But for your reasoning upthread to work, Harry has to be so sure that the outpouring of magic carried all the information about Hermione that it's not worth it to him to try and protect her brain, and with (a) his protestations that brain damage means that the information must be in the brain and (b) there not being a shred of evidence that I can remember off the top of my head that Muggles require any magic to run (in which case witches/wizards' brains/souls would presumably have to work completely differently from Muggles), I don't think Harry is at a point where he can conclude that the chance of reviving her by saving the body is so low that he should concentrate his efforts on chasing her souly-looking emanation of magic.

Comment author: Qiaochu_Yuan 30 June 2013 09:50:42AM 5 points [-]

Fair point.

Comment author: ikrase 30 June 2013 10:31:58AM 0 points [-]

Harry currently thinks that Atlantis is some form of system that locks onto human bodies with the Blood Of Atlantis gene and detects their commands (spells, odd potion-making actions, etc).

A simple explanation for Horcrux is that it is basically a form of uploading. Although that would make it seem overly simple for Sufficiently Creative Harry to find a way to make horcruxes without human sacrifice.

Alternatively, a wizard's soul has read-only access to their brain.

Comment author: Benja 30 June 2013 11:37:08AM 1 point [-]

I'm not claiming that recoverable info-containing souls are a completely crazy outlandish hypothesis; I merely claim that Harry is nowhere near having enough support for this hypothesis to stake Hermione's life on it being true.