Vaniver comments on Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality discussion thread, part 19, chapter 88-89 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Vaniver 30 June 2013 05:34:01AM *  5 points [-]

All he would need to do is replace Hermione with a suitably transfigured/polyjucied/magicked rat to avoid the paradox.

I would imagine that "dying-soul-magic", or whatever that was, is impossible to fake (or, at least, really dang hard to) like prophecy magic.

Comment author: ygert 30 June 2013 09:27:13AM 2 points [-]

No, this is what you'd do: You'd polyjuice another human into Hermione. Thus, when the imposter dies, there would still be the "dying-soul-magic" of a human dying. (Of course, there are the ethical objections of trading another's life for Hermione's, but to be honest, I don't think that would stop Harry at the moment in the state he is in.

Oh, and you'd use the Imperius curse or something to make the polyjuiced duplicate do the whole "Not your fault" thing. (Hey, if you're ignoring ethical objections, might as well...)

Comment author: Vaniver 30 June 2013 06:27:22PM 4 points [-]

You'd polyjuice another human into Hermione. Thus, when the imposter dies, there would still be the "dying-soul-magic" of a human dying.

Does this sound like someone polyjuiced into Hermione to you?

There was a burst of something that was magic and also more, a shout louder than an earthquake and containing a thousand books, a thousand libraries, all spoken in a single cry that was Hermione; too vast to be understood, except that Harry suddenly knew that Hermione had whited out the pain, and was glad not to be dying alone.

Comment author: Decius 01 July 2013 12:00:37AM 0 points [-]

Meh. I'd take the simpler route of confounding my own perceptions.

Comment author: taelor 30 June 2013 11:29:15AM *  0 points [-]

Find someone who's already about to die (a terminally ill patient suffering from the advanced stages of an incurable disease or a condemned prisoner in the ), and use them.

Comment author: Axel 01 July 2013 12:57:14PM 1 point [-]

Harry is the only one to witness the 'dying-soul-magic' and he has no idea what it is supposed to look like. Adding any sort of magical disturbance to the dying magicked!rat would have the same result from Harry's point of view.

Comment author: Michelle_Z 01 July 2013 08:41:20PM 0 points [-]

False memory charm?

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