ygert comments on Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality discussion thread, part 19, chapter 88-89 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: ygert 30 June 2013 08:57:47AM 0 points [-]

OK. was the whole thing with the soup? I think it can only be one of two things:

1) A shout-out/reference to another piece of fiction. HPMOR does this a lot, and I would not be surprised if this was yet another one of those. I do not recognise what piece of fiction it is referencing though. Can I get confirmation from anyone on if they recognise it from anywhere?

2) Otherwise, it must be important to the story. Remember, HPMOR is a rationalist story. There there are not meant to be red herrings. You are supposed to be able to figure it out. So, if this is the case, how has this got to do with the events of the story. Perhaps some weird time travel thing? I do not know. I notice I am confused.

Comment author: robryk 30 June 2013 09:30:36AM 6 points [-]

Remember, HPMOR is a rationalist story. There there are not meant to be red herrings.

I don't quite see why. Real world contains a lot of those.

Comment author: Alsadius 30 June 2013 07:53:16PM 3 points [-]

Puzzles don't, and EY has stated that he thinks of HPMOR as a solvable problem.

Comment author: robryk 30 June 2013 08:31:25PM 1 point [-]

Not all solvable problems are puzzles. Real world contains solvable problems, and it's more useful for one's calibration to consider real-world-like problems. I would expect a rationalist story to include some red herrings, because they exist in the real world and people normally underestimate their probability.

Comment author: Alsadius 30 June 2013 08:36:54PM 4 points [-]

Of course, but the story has been very high on foreshadowing and low on red herrings to date, so I suspect that will continue.

Comment author: Axel 01 July 2013 12:46:44PM 2 points [-]

It could just have been an excuse to list the professors present and note Dumbledore's absence.

Comment author: gwern 01 July 2013 04:47:11PM 2 points [-]

Or intended to highlight the 'pressure of Time' on Trelawney - she's about to finish giving birth to a prophecy in a few minute and might be a little more distracted & clumsy than usual.

Comment author: Qiaochu_Yuan 30 June 2013 09:37:30AM 1 point [-]

In the context of the next chapter, I assume it's a side effect of the temporal pressure building up before Trelawney's next prophecy.