Qiaochu_Yuan comments on Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality discussion thread, part 19, chapter 88-89 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Qiaochu_Yuan 30 June 2013 09:33:51AM *  2 points [-]

Hmm. My guess, based on the kind of logic that seems to govern most magic, would have been that the amount of magical energy required has something to do with how different the two things you're transfiguring between are. But again, who knows how the energy requirements of transfiguration really work.

I was also under the impression that Harry had to keep the rock with him at all times to keep it transfigured. Would he also have to keep Hermione with him at all times? Also, the transfiguration stops if Harry exhausts his magic for whatever other reason, and I don't think he'd want to risk that happening to Hermione.

Comment author: jkaufman 30 June 2013 08:28:35PM 6 points [-]

He now has a ring on his hand without a jewel. He could put Hermione there.

Comment author: Benito 30 June 2013 09:35:34PM 10 points [-]

How romantic, in a very... Well, something.

I mean... "keeping your best female friend's dead body on a ring on your finger"...

Comment author: gwern 30 June 2013 09:50:51PM 3 points [-]

As it happens, I was reading the The Black Company dark fantasy series lat month; one of the powerful wizards in it, Shifter (he's a shapeshifter specialist) goes around with a staff carved into a beautiful woman - which was originally just that. He's a quasi-insane evil villain.

So... the fantasy precedents aren't that great, I guess I am saying.

Comment author: bogdanb 06 July 2013 07:00:34AM 1 point [-]

I suspect the ring is Hermione. The dead body in the cell is probably a death doll made from the old ring.

Comment author: jkaufman 06 July 2013 02:38:23PM 2 points [-]

Magical exhaustion would mean cutting off his finger with a restored Hermione. That's why the rock was transfigured into a jewel and not a ring.

Comment author: bogdanb 10 July 2013 10:23:32PM 0 points [-]

I’m not trying to imply anything naughty here, but Hermione is somewhat softer than that rock. (Until you see her angry.)

Not to mention he doesn’t have any obvious need to keep Hermione on his finger all the time, unlike the rock. Just long enough to find some safe spot to hide her. (Unless he plans to revive her within the next couple of days.)

Comment author: Roxolan 30 June 2013 06:10:10PM 0 points [-]

It's not a long-term solution, especially given Harry's exciting life. But it's better than no solution. There'll be time to brainstorm a better storage system later.

Comment author: ikrase 30 June 2013 10:36:49AM 0 points [-]

As far as I can tell, transfiguration mana requirements are based on the size of the assumed form, and there can be a huge size change (such as a 20 kg? rocket from a small ice cube taking a long time) and the very easy partial-transfiguration slicing.

Harry doesn't need to keep the rock at all times. He just needs to contact it more often than once every transfiguration duration.