Vladimir_Nesov comments on Gains from trade: Slug versus Galaxy - how much would I give up to control you? - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Vladimir_Nesov 19 July 2013 08:08:50PM *  5 points [-]

(if you can't change any of your decisions, you have no power)

Change presumes comparison to something else. You determine your decisions, but there doesn't need to be anything that can be compared to them, so there doesn't need to be any "change". (I understand that you are talking in the context of "status quo", so this is more of a foundational nitpick.) In determining your decisions, what matters are the reasons/causes of these decisions. If decisions are such that they optimize your values, that gives them "power" of enacting these values. Someone else's decisions can also have the "power" to optimize your values, which is when "trade" is useful.

Comment author: Stuart_Armstrong 19 July 2013 08:12:22PM 1 point [-]

I knew this would come up! :-)

I shouldn't have been so informal, I was just trying to get a concept across. But yeah, philosophers disagree and there's more complexity and issues and caveats.