Creutzer comments on Rationality Quotes July 2013 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Creutzer 20 July 2013 09:28:36AM *  27 points [-]

“As I looked out into the night sky, across all those infinite stars, it made me realize how insignificant they are."

Peter Cook

Not, perhaps, a rationality quote per se, but a delightful subversion of a harmful commonplace.

Comment author: [deleted] 25 July 2013 02:12:42PM 1 point [-]

What do you mean by "harmful commonplace"?

Comment author: simplicio 25 July 2013 06:00:36PM *  5 points [-]

The standard version is that in looking at the stars we realize our own insignificance. Apart from the sheer non-sequitur from "of comparatively small dimensions" to "insignificant" (to whom?!), such tropes may serve as a sort of moral anaesthetic: "Taking the Hubble View, does it really, fundamentally matter if I steal money from my investors?"

The general problem is that of making leaps from empty empirical facts to (almost certainly mistaken or self-serving) moral conclusions.

Comment author: [deleted] 25 July 2013 07:05:35PM 2 points [-]

I notice I am confused, and I do get a sense of insignificance/wonderment when looking at the night sky.

Are there actually people who use the size of the universe to justify moral nihilism?

Comment author: Creutzer 26 July 2013 05:16:56AM 4 points [-]

I don't think it's usually employed to justify moral nihilism so much as to tell people to shut up and not take human problems so seriously - when in fact human problems are all that matters. It strikes me as a secular cognate of the way religion frequently calls for "humility".

Comment author: simplicio 26 July 2013 02:27:45PM 0 points [-]

Maybe the specific example I cite is a bit farfetched, but the general principle of "ex naturalistic fallacy quodlibet" is sound.