Nornagest comments on Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality discussion thread, part 21, chapters 91 & 92 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Michelle_Z 04 July 2013 05:03:01PM 8 points [-]

Has anyone else noticed that Quirrell knew James Potter?

"James Potter," said Professor Quirrell, his eyes narrowing. "The boy is not much like James Potter.

Comment author: robryk 04 July 2013 05:16:25PM *  14 points [-]

No, this means that the person Quirrell is pretending to be knew James Potter. So, either Quirrell's image of David Monroe knew James or Quirrell is inserting an inconsistency.

Comment author: Nornagest 04 July 2013 07:49:27PM *  7 points [-]

That doesn't seem likely to be an inconsistency to me. James (and Lily) Potter were members of the Order of the Phoenix during the last war. I don't recall David Monroe being a member of that group in this continuity, but he was an active member of the opposition. It stands to reason that moderately important opposition figures would have known each other, especially since there seem to have been relatively few people actively involved in the war on either side.

Comment author: gwern 04 July 2013 08:02:01PM *  7 points [-]

Moody's wording in ch86 seems to imply the Order may not have even existed before Monroe 'died':

"Flush of gratitude and all that," Mad-Eye Moody said sourly. "It didn't last, but at least James and Lily got a fancy title and a useless medal to take to their graves. But that's leaving out eight years of complete horror after Monroe disappeared and Regulus Black - he was Monroe's private source in the Death Eaters, we're pretty sure - was executed by Voldie. Like a dam breaking and gore flooding out, drowning the whole country. Albus bloody Dumbledore himself had to step into Monroe's shoes, and that was barely enough for us to survive."

(Although you could argue that Monroe had formed and was the head of the Order, and that is what Moody meant.)

Comment author: DanArmak 05 July 2013 01:38:44PM *  6 points [-]

Although you could argue that Monroe had formed and was the head of the Order, and that is what Moody meant.

Then it's less likely that it would have been called the order of the Phoenix.

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