endoself comments on Evidential Decision Theory, Selection Bias, and Reference Classes - Less Wrong

19 Post author: Qiaochu_Yuan 08 July 2013 05:16AM

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Comment author: endoself 08 July 2013 10:54:46AM *  4 points [-]

No. For example, AIXI is what I would regard as essentially a Bayesian agent, but it has a notion of causality because it has a notion of the environment taking its actions as an input.

This looks like a symptom of AIXI's inability to self-model. Of course causality is going to look fundamental when you think you can magically intervene from outside the system.

Do you share the intuition I mention in my other comment? I feel that they way this post reframes CDT and TDT as attempts to clarify bad self-modelling by naive EDT is very similar to the way I would reframe Pearl's positions as an attempt to clarify bad self-modelling by naive probability theory a la AIXI.

Comment author: Qiaochu_Yuan 08 July 2013 08:14:55PM 0 points [-]

So your intuition is that causality isn't fundamental but should fall out of correct self-modeling? I guess that's also my intuition, and I also don't know how to make that precise.