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Comment author: NancyLebovitz 16 August 2010 08:15:57AM 3 points [-]

Something I've wondered about in re the high proportion of engineers among suicide bombers-- I'd have thought that engineers would be last people in the world to think that you can improve things by giving them a good hard kick. Any theories about what I'm missing?

Comment author: Mitchell_Porter 16 August 2010 08:36:31AM 21 points [-]

It's not that Muslim engineers have a special tendency to become jihadis. But engineers do stuff. They solve problems, they act. So when an engineer does join the jihad, they won't be half-hearted about it, and they'll probably be good at it. And in this regard, the jihad is exactly the same as all modern war: educated people who know something of physics and problem-solving always play a large role. That's my theory.

Comment author: gwern 16 August 2010 09:09:37AM 5 points [-]

http://www.slate.com/id/2240157

Another possible explanation would be that engineers possess technical skills and architectural know-how that makes them attractive recruits for terrorist organizations. But the recent study found that engineers are just as likely to hold leadership roles within these organizations as they are to be working hands-on with explosives. In any case, their technical expertise may not be that useful, since most of the methods employed in terrorist attacks are rudimentary. It's true that eight of the 25 hijackers on 9/11 were engineers, but it was their experience with box cutters and flight school, not fancy degrees, that counted in the end.

Comment author: NancyLebovitz 16 August 2010 02:20:19PM 5 points [-]

And if someone is good at making bombs (which is the role I would have expected for engineers) that's precisely the sort of person a terrorist organization wouldn't want to die.

I think.

One thing I've noticed is that everyone (ok, some huge proportion of people) thinks they're an expert on how to do effective terrorism.

Comment author: gwern 16 August 2010 02:52:45PM *  9 points [-]
Comment author: Ender 18 June 2012 03:42:40PM 6 points [-]

Making perfect, evil plots can be a great conversation starter.