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Comment author: folkTheory 18 July 2013 07:02:22AM 4 points [-]

I'm trying to decide whether to marry someone, but I'm having a lot of trouble deciding. Anyone have any advice?

Comment author: drethelin 18 July 2013 06:13:40PM 8 points [-]

1) do you plan on spending a long period of time in a relationship with someone?

2) you have a job where they will get benefits from being married to you or vice versa?

3) do you expect to have children or buy property soon?

4) do you hang out with people who care whether or not you're married rather than just a long-term couple?

5) do you expect the other person to ever leave you and take half your stuff?

6) do you want to have a giant ceremony?

7) do you live in a country where you get tax credits or something for being married?

8) do you expect yourself or them to act differently if "married" or not?

9) do you have the money to blow on a wedding?

10) is there any benefit to getting married soon over later? If you expect to be together in several years as a married couple, can you just stay together a year and THEN get married?

These are some useful questions off the top of my head for this situation.

Comment author: Viliam_Bur 19 July 2013 01:57:09PM *  2 points [-]

Don't forget to include the probability of a divorce (use outside view) and likely consequences.

Comment author: [deleted] 21 July 2013 04:14:34PM 1 point [-]

Ain't that the 5 in drethelin's list?

Comment author: Viliam_Bur 21 July 2013 04:23:24PM 1 point [-]

Oops, I somehow skipped that one.

Comment author: Lumifer 18 July 2013 05:48:04PM 6 points [-]

Other than in special circumstance, I think marriage is one of these occasions where "having trouble deciding" pretty clearly means "NO".

Comment author: Oscar_Cunningham 18 July 2013 10:14:56PM 1 point [-]

It could also mean "Not now".

Comment author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 21 July 2013 12:50:47AM -2 points [-]

Are you already married? What do your current spouses say?

Comment author: shminux 21 July 2013 01:10:26AM *  7 points [-]

While funny as jests go, your reply sounds rather condescending in the "transhumanists are better than muggles" sort of way. Unless I misunderstand your point.

Comment author: folkTheory 22 July 2013 01:07:28AM 2 points [-]

I am not currently married.

Comment author: Dorikka 20 July 2013 06:35:25PM 1 point [-]

You might be interested in the textbook that I recommended here, which includes some general information about patterns in relationships that predict how-long-people-that-are-married-stay-married.

I am aware that I am recommending a 500 page textbook in response to your request for advice, and that this is kinda absurd. I am not familiar enough with the material to be able to (given the amount of effort that I am willing to dedicate to the task) summarize the relevant information for you, but figured that the link would be literally better than nothing.

Comment author: bogdanb 18 July 2013 05:40:57PM *  0 points [-]

Start with a list :-)

First figure out why you’re trying to decide that (the pros) and write it down. Then figure why you haven’t decided yet (the cons) and write those down.

If writing them down isn’t enough, try to figure out a way to put numbers on each item. (Exactly what kind of numbers depends on you, and figuring that is part of the solution.)

If that doesn’t work, then ask for help, with the list.

Comment author: shminux 21 July 2013 01:08:32AM *  0 points [-]

If in doubt, don't. There is rarely a good reason to formalize a relationship these days until you are absolutely sure that he/she is the one.