Benjamin_Lyons comments on Notes on "The Limits to Growth" and surrounding material - Less Wrong

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Comment author: [deleted] 22 July 2013 03:05:43PM 0 points [-]

The marginal cost of reducing pollution grows astronomically as pollution tends to zero

In the book, does this cost refer to the cost of a technological solution to pollution, or does it also/instead refer to the cost of society coordinating to reduce pollution?

Comment author: JonahSinick 22 July 2013 05:44:23PM 1 point [-]

There's not a clear divide between the two things (e.g. it could be that what's needed is a technology that facilitates coordination). I don't remember the exact wording in the book.

Comment author: [deleted] 23 July 2013 09:42:53PM 0 points [-]

I ask because as the costs of pollution rise, so might the benefits.

Comment author: JonahSinick 24 July 2013 05:37:32AM 0 points [-]

What are the benefits of pollution?

Comment author: [deleted] 24 July 2013 08:38:06AM *  2 points [-]

People don't pollute randomly. They pollute as a necessary by-product of other activities. There aren't, as far as I know, any benefits to pollution per se, but there are benefits to the sorts of activities that produce pollution. The costs of pollution may rise, but that doesn't imply that at any point the cost of pollution won't be worth it (except possibly on the margin due to the externality).

Comment author: JonahSinick 24 July 2013 10:12:45PM 0 points [-]

Ok, I understand what you're saying now. The matter under discussion is the negative externalities of pollution (perhaps to future generations). I don't know if there's enough Uranium or Plutonium for this to be a realistic hypothetical, but one could imagine a world in which nuclear reactor waste accumulated to such a degree so as to substantially reduce the amount of inhabitable land.

Comment author: Pentashagon 23 July 2013 06:33:36PM 0 points [-]

Thermodynamic inefficiency will always produce at least some heat pollution and I think it's safe to predict that the cost of achieving 99.99% efficiency is at least an order of magnitude more expensive than 99.9% efficiency.