CronoDAS comments on The Empty White Room: Surreal Utilities - Less Wrong

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Comment author: CronoDAS 23 July 2013 10:16:48AM *  10 points [-]

Problem: People in real life choose the equivalent of the fabricator over Frank all the time, assuming "choosing not to intervene to prevent a death" is equivalent to choosing the fabricator...

Also, people accept risks to their own life all the time.

Comment author: linkhyrule5 23 July 2013 07:02:02PM 2 points [-]

Well, sure. But people don't always do what they wish they'd do, or believe they should do. And I know people who will adamantly defend the position that, somehow, not taking an action that results in a consequence is fundamentally different from taking an action that results in the same consequence.

And of course they accept risks to their own life. Driving, for example - you can't get money without it, you can't really live without money, therefore driving has an ω-tier expected utility. A teenager who decides to go drinking with his friends has decided that he'd rather enjoy the night than keep 10% of his life or whatever. The conclusions don't change here.

Comment author: CronoDAS 25 July 2013 06:02:59AM 1 point [-]

And I know people who will adamantly defend the position that, somehow, not taking an action that results in a consequence is fundamentally different from taking an action that results in the same consequence.

Yeah, it's a big assumption.