Eliezer_Yudkowsky comments on Belief in Belief - Less Wrong

66 Post author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 29 July 2007 05:49PM

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Comment author: Quarkster 29 November 2009 02:50:06AM 4 points [-]

"Those who find this confusing may find it helpful to study mathematical logic, which trains one to make very sharp distinctions between the proposition P, a proof of P, and a proof that P is provable"

This is a bit of a side question, but wouldn't a proof that P is provable be a proof of P? In fact, it sounds like a particularly elegant form of proof.

Comment author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 01 December 2009 12:10:55AM 5 points [-]

If you trust base system B, then a proof that P is provable in B is good as gold to you. But it is not a proof in B.

http://lesswrong.com/lw/t6/the_cartoon_guide_to_l%C3%B6bs_theorem/