byrnema comments on Belief in Belief - Less Wrong

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Comment author: RobinZ 29 April 2010 02:16:17PM 3 points [-]

It's better than a hunch - it's backed up experimentally.

I think it actually comes down to the same logical idea of The Bottom Line, the modus tollens: if the bottom line is formed through good processes, then it often remains strong even when the text above it is created through other means. You (or, I suppose, I) could write an essay on all the cases where it is what was written above the bottom line that was garbage.

But I like this point:

Whatever the truth is, the hypothetical frightened father - and the very real frightened theists, such as yourself - already are living under whatever conditions actually hold.

And I will take it with me.

I heard that here, ascribed to Eugene Gendlin. It is a valuable insight, I think.

Comment author: byrnema 29 April 2010 03:44:34PM 0 points [-]

(MrHen)

The relevant question is whether the good person would remain good after they discover God is not real. My hunch is that most people who are good would stay that way.

(RobinZ)

It's better than a hunch - it's backed up experimentally.

I guess it's backed up, for example, by Europe as a poll in 2005 found that "18% do not believe there is any sort of spirit, god or life force." And life in Europe is ticking along fine.