palladias comments on Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality discussion thread, part 25, chapter 96 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: CronoDAS 25 July 2013 06:11:11AM *  1 point [-]

Now I'm reminded of a quote from a similar work:

To conquer death, you only have to die.

Something similar happened to canon!Harry in book 7, after he had become the owner of all three Deathly Hallows...

Comment author: palladias 25 July 2013 06:29:54AM 11 points [-]

Well, the Christus Victor theology of the resurrection of Christ is basically that Christ broke our slavery to death by going through the process Himself, which caused a divide by zero error and broke death permanently.

Comment author: 4hodmt 25 July 2013 09:57:47PM 3 points [-]

Hearing about this improves my opinion of Christianity. I was previously only familiar with penal substitution theory. God sacrificing himself to a third party to pay a debt to that third party makes some kind of sense, while sacrificing himself to himself to pay a debt to himself is obviously crazy.

I'm surprised that ransom theories are unpopular now. Christianity could avoid a lot of mockery by returning to them.

Comment author: Swimmy 26 July 2013 12:17:22AM 1 point [-]

Avoiding mockery is probably not a terminal value of most of the denominations you're referring to. Regardless, if you accept the doctrine of the Trinity, God gets to be both a third party and a first party to the transaction, problem solved! And most Christians probably see it more as God making a sacrifice to appease the cosmic legal system that he instituted rather than himself directly, if that makes any sense.

Comment author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 25 July 2013 06:54:20PM 0 points [-]

Tada!

Comment author: TrE 25 July 2013 08:41:53PM 0 points [-]

Sounds legit.