juliawise comments on Bayesian Judo - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Jotto999 14 February 2012 09:16:22PM 0 points [-]

Hmm! I found that actually quite helpful. The therapist didn't even voice any apparent disagreement, he coaxed the man into making his reasoning explicit. This would greatly reduce the percent of the argument spent in an adversarial state. I noticed that it also put the emphasis of the discussion on the epistemology of the subject which seems the best way for them to learn why they are wrong, as opposed to a more example-specific "You're wrong because X".

Thank you for that link. Would it be useful for me to use other videos involving a therapist who disagrees with a delusional patient? It seems like the ideal type of behaviour to try and emulate. This is going to take me lots of practice but I'm eager to get it.

Thank you for your help and advice!

Comment author: juliawise 15 February 2012 11:16:31PM 0 points [-]

Would it be useful for me to use other videos involving a therapist who disagrees with a delusional patient?

I'm not sure. The kind of irrational beliefs you're likely to talk about with others are some kind of misconception or cached belief, rather than an out-and-out delusion like "people are following me everywhere", which probably stems from a chemical imbalance and can't really be talked away.

You could try reading up on CBT, but the literature is about doing therapy, which is a pretty different animal from normal conversations. Active listening might be a more useful skill to start with. People are less defensive if they feel you're really trying to understand their point of view.