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Comment author: komponisto 30 July 2013 08:58:51AM *  6 points [-]

Wasn't there a Greg Egan's story about it?

English tip: the possessive ending " 's " carries an implicit "the". Thus "Greg Egan's story" means "the story of Greg Egan", not just "story of Greg Egan". (This is unlike the corresponding construction in, for example, German.) Instead of the above, you wanted to write:

Wasn't there a Greg Egan story about it?

(This particular mistake occurs often among non-native-speakers, and indeed is a dead giveaway of one's status as such, so it's worth saying something about.)

Comment author: [deleted] 30 July 2013 01:03:27PM *  1 point [-]

English tip: the possessive ending " 's " carries an implicit "the".

(Except in constructs like “girls' school” or “a ten minutes' walk”.)

Comment author: komponisto 30 July 2013 04:34:10PM 0 points [-]

You're right about "girls' school", but "a ten minutes' walk" is wrong (should be "a ten-minute walk" or "ten minutes' walk").

Comment author: [deleted] 31 July 2013 09:46:48AM *  1 point [-]

Thanks. I myself am a non-native speaker.

[Note to self: I should re-read the relevant chapter in my English grammar when I get back home. Meanwhile, I'll look at the overview here.]

(Semantically, “ten minutes' walk” still means ‘a ten-minute walk’ rather than ‘the ten-minute walk’, but your point in reply to shminux was about syntax not semantics anyway.)

Comment author: komponisto 31 July 2013 08:27:25PM 0 points [-]

(Semantically, “ten minutes' walk” still means ‘a ten-minute walk’ rather than ‘the ten-minute walk’, but your point in reply to shminux was about syntax not semantics anyway.)

The "proof of synonymy" looks like this:

ten minutes' walk = (the walk) of (ten minutes) = a (walk of ten minutes) = a ten-minute walk

...the second "equality" being where semantics is invoked.