linkhyrule5 comments on Rationality Quotes August 2013 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: linkhyrule5 03 August 2013 07:36:43AM 0 points [-]

Well, no, but I would never trust an AI if I couldn't prove (or nobody I trusted could prove) it was Friendly with respect to me, period.

... not that it would much matter, but..

Also, relevance? I'm not really understanding your point in general. Certainly, problems need to be solved, but I would hope that your morality is included as a constraint...

Comment author: Document 03 August 2013 07:45:02AM *  0 points [-]

But not necessarily if you're a fictional character, hence my initial question. I think my point is that I'm not convinced the quote actually means anything, either in its original context or in its use here; it's sounding like "everything" just means "things for which the statement is true".

Comment author: linkhyrule5 03 August 2013 09:25:50PM 0 points [-]

Still don't understand. By definition, if something is hampering you, it presents a problem: sometimes the solution is "leave it alone, all possible 'solutions' are actually worse," but it's still something that bears thinking about.

It is somewhat tautological, I'll grant, but us poor imperfect humans occasionally find tautologies helpful.

Comment author: Glen 05 August 2013 05:26:58PM 1 point [-]

This is similar to how I've interpreted it. The character comes from a pre-enlightenment society, and is considered one of the greatest intelligence agents largely due to his ability to get results where nobody else can. He privately attributes this success to a rational mind and extensive [chess] skill that trains him to approach things as though they can be solved. While "stop and think about problems like they were games to be won instead of chores to be blamed on someone else" may seem obvious to people used to thinking like that, it's a major shift for most people.