Adele_L comments on Group Rationality Diary, August 1-15 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Qiaochu_Yuan 02 August 2013 12:31:33AM *  8 points [-]

Updating towards many animals I eat being more similar to humans than I had previously thought, based mostly on this link from Why Eat Less Meat?. Still unsure what to do about it. Feeling guilty seems unproductive and so does rabid vegetarian advocacy.

Also, I conducted an informal poll on Facebook among my friends about how much they would have to be compensated for going vegetarian for a year, and I got answers generally hovering around $3,000 (I included instructions not to look at other people's answers first, although I don't know how well they were followed), although one respondent seriously answered $20,000. At the very least this reflects a general impression that vegetarianism is very inconvenient / unpleasant which could be the target of effective animal altruists. Although...

Comment author: Oscar_Cunningham 02 August 2013 01:22:55AM 1 point [-]

Vegetarian diets are cheaper, you'd get about $1000 just from that, no other considerations involved.

Comment author: Adele_L 02 August 2013 03:48:20AM 3 points [-]

Is this still true after accounting for nutritional and health changes necessary to get a vegetarian diet with the same quality as an omnivorous diet? I could cut out all meat, and just replace it with more of the vegetarian things I typically eat, but I would get less protein, and healthy fats, creatine, etc... which I would have to compensate for.

Comment author: vollmer 02 August 2013 01:25:24PM 2 points [-]

Protein deficiency is very rare even among long-term vegans and it's pretty hard to miss out on essential amino acids. As for "healthy fats, creatine, etc...", those can be easily supplemented, which is particularly important for vegans. Also note that meat eaters usually don't get enough healthy fats either.

Vegetarians have higher life expectancies (1-9 years), as also stated here.

Comment author: MTGandP 02 August 2013 04:21:48AM *  0 points [-]

Most vegetarians probably get the majority of their protein from nuts, beans, and grains, which tend to be a lot cheaper than meat. The same goes for fats, etc.