Luke_A_Somers comments on Religion's Claim to be Non-Disprovable - Less Wrong

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Comment author: DanielLC 28 June 2011 10:15:03PM 1 point [-]

The lack of ethics are also not falsifiable. By the same logic, you could say that there must be ethical truths.

Why must everything that exists be falsifiable? If there was a particle that didn't react to any of the four forces, its existence would be unfalsifiable. Is that any reason for it to not exist? If you had two non-interacting universe, by your logic each could say that the other doesn't exist. Certainly two universes isn't the same as no universes.

Comment author: Luke_A_Somers 13 May 2013 09:02:51PM 0 points [-]

If there were compelling theoretical reasons, I might suppose that it existed. For example,

  • if every particle had a charge that was an element of a particular group, which could be factored into the Cartesian product of four groups, one for each force, and
  • a particle which has its charge being the identity element in any one of those groups doesn't feel that force, and
  • this theory uses the group structure in some significant way, not just as a glorified table, and
  • every element of the overall group has exactly one kind of particle with that exact combination of charges,
  • except we couldn't tell whether there was a particle in the 'no interactions' slot because it didn't interact with anything...

I'd hazard that they exist, not that it would matter.

Comment author: DanielLC 13 May 2013 10:16:33PM 0 points [-]

In that case I'd figure that they probably exist. Otherwise, I'd figure that they probably don't. In either case, they might exist.