JoshuaZ comments on Open thread, August 5-11, 2013 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: JoshuaZ 05 August 2013 01:44:24PM 28 points [-]

If you had a Death Note, what would you do with it?

See if I could get some very old people or otherwise have terminal illnesses volunteer to have their names written in it. We can use that data to experiment more with the note and figure out how it works. The existence of such an object implies massive things wrong with our current understanding of the universe, so figuring that out might be really helpful.

Comment author: Leonhart 05 August 2013 06:58:32PM 14 points [-]

I believe it canonically can't run out of pages, so I'd think hard about how to leverage infinite free paper into world domination.

Comment author: ChristianKl 05 August 2013 09:14:12PM 10 points [-]

I don't think you can infinitely fast pull out papers of the death note, so I doubt that you can produce more paper per hour than the average paper factory.

Comment author: FiftyTwo 05 August 2013 08:39:05PM 5 points [-]

Burn the paper to fuel a turbine. Congratulations you now have infinite free energy.

Comment author: Leonhart 05 August 2013 10:53:29PM 11 points [-]

Then it turns out that Death Note smoke particles retain the magic qualities of the source. Writing one's name in dust with a fingertip becomes fraught with peril.

Comment author: JoshuaZ 05 August 2013 09:32:12PM 3 points [-]

It may be extremely difficult to remove pages at a fast enough rate for this to be practically useful.

Comment author: Protagoras 05 August 2013 08:56:52PM 1 point [-]

And you've set global warming to continue even beyond the exhaustion of fossil fuels.

Comment author: FiftyTwo 05 August 2013 09:34:17PM 5 points [-]

The paper is white yes? If we can cover reasonably large areas of land with it it would make a pretty good reflector of solar radiation

Comment author: DanielLC 06 August 2013 04:12:39AM 1 point [-]

You have to make sure nobody writes any names on it.

Comment author: Baughn 05 August 2013 06:56:08PM 3 points [-]

That's a really good fanfiction idea. I hope you won't mind if I swipe it.

Comment author: JoshuaZ 05 August 2013 07:46:59PM 5 points [-]

Not at all. Although to some extent I just asked, what would HJPEV do if he got a Death Note?

Comment author: DanielLC 06 August 2013 04:14:20AM *  6 points [-]

Harry wasn't even willing to use hoarcruxes. If you won't kill a dying man to make someone else immortal, then you're not going to do it just to throw science at the wall to see what sticks.

Comment author: JoshuaZ 06 August 2013 04:57:12AM 0 points [-]

True, so this isn't quite what HJPEV would do but more what would he do if he were slighlty less of an absolutist. (Actually has he ever explicitly said in text that he wouldn't do that. I suspect given his attitudes that you are correct, but I'm curious what the textual basis is.)

Comment author: DanielLC 06 August 2013 06:35:21AM *  3 points [-]

"Well obviously I'm not going to popularize a method of immortality that requires killing people! That would defeat the entire point!"

-- Chapter 39: Pretending to be Wise, Pt 1

Comment author: Benito 05 August 2013 08:24:31PM -2 points [-]

Well done. You have just levelled up.

Comment author: Benito 05 August 2013 09:58:45PM *  4 points [-]

Could someone who downvoted this please tell me why? I was praising a useful thought (WWHJPEVD?).

Comment author: Ben_LandauTaylor 05 August 2013 11:09:27PM 8 points [-]

Nonspecific praise clutters up the thread. Next time, just upvote--it conveys the same information.

Comment author: Benito 06 August 2013 07:30:21AM 7 points [-]

Thanks!

Comment author: Baughn 06 August 2013 03:49:10PM 8 points [-]

The above is a terribly ironic reply.

Comment author: ChristianKl 06 August 2013 09:16:35PM 4 points [-]

Why our kind can't cooperate seems relevant. Even nonspecfic praise can create more fuzzy feelings than an upvote.

Comment author: ChristianKl 06 August 2013 11:53:19PM 2 points [-]

I think the fanfiction could be quite good at explaining to people modern cryptography and anonymity.

Comment author: FiftyTwo 10 August 2013 01:59:36PM 1 point [-]

Also could examine concepts of personal identity, e.g. if someone converts and changes their name does the note recognise only the birth name or the new one? What about trans people who change names? You could ahve people tactically altering their self conception to avoid the effects of the note...

Comment author: ChristianKl 06 August 2013 09:08:51PM *  2 points [-]

How do you recruit the volunteers without giving away that you have a death note and some secret service wanting to take it away from you?

Comment author: taelor 06 August 2013 05:08:59AM 2 points [-]

See if I could get some very old people or otherwise have terminal illnesses volunteer to have their names written in it.

Alternately, you could have a codemned criminal slip and break his neck on the way to the lethal injection.