gwern comments on New article on in vitro iterated embryo selection - Less Wrong

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Comment author: gwern 09 August 2013 02:12:20AM 0 points [-]

ETA: And further discussed in James Miller's recent book, "Singularity Rising."

And of course Hsu has been talking about it for... well, a long time, anyway.

Comment author: CarlShulman 09 August 2013 04:03:49AM 4 points [-]

And of course Hsu has been talking about it for... well, a long time, anyway

Never, actually. Hsu has written interesting things about conventional embryo selection.

Comment author: gwern 09 August 2013 03:50:37PM 0 points [-]

Ah. You were referring narrowly to just the in vitro part, not the iterated selection part. My bad.

Comment author: ESRogs 09 August 2013 04:35:36PM 0 points [-]

What would non-in vitro iterated selection be, just normal breeding of adults?

Comment author: gwern 09 August 2013 04:54:05PM 3 points [-]

I'm not sure what you mean by 'normal breeding of adults', but Hsu's proposal would be basically an augmented IVF: you do IVF as usual, sequence each of the embryos to get an estimate of IQ/whatever, and implant the highest-scoring one; the embryo develops into an adult, and you repeat the process.

Each generation could get a boost of maybe 5 points (it depends on how many embryos you can produce and how accurate your estimate is and how much of IQ turns out to be genuinely genetic), so in a century that could add up to quite a bit.

Comment author: ESRogs 09 August 2013 05:03:21PM 0 points [-]

Ah I see, so the selection step is still in vitro, but not the entire lifecycle of an iteration. The wording had been confusing me. Thanks for clearing that up!