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Comment author: jkaufman 12 August 2013 02:25:59AM *  4 points [-]

My post wasn't a response to Žižek's views overall but to the arguments he makes in this particular 10 minute video that people keep posting as an argument against charity.

What would you suggest I read to understand how Žižek would answer the question, "what should I do to most improve the world?"

Comment author: iamesco 12 August 2013 06:27:31PM *  0 points [-]

Zizek is quite a prolific writer, and so I hence hope you'll forgive me for linking to a book that I haven't myself read, but this book appears to be the one which is most geared towards the question at hand (especially given that it shares its name with Zizek's talk).

http://www.amazon.com/First-As-Tragedy-Then-Farce/dp/1844674282/ref=sr_1_5?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1376331792&sr=1-5

As I side note, I must admit that I do completely understand the frustration that comes with people constantly posting videos like this in an attempt to justify themselves, hence I can understand you posting what you did as a response to that.

Comment author: jkaufman 13 August 2013 08:22:44PM 1 point [-]

Requested it from the library!

Comment author: iamesco 14 August 2013 09:10:57PM 0 points [-]

I hope you enjoy it. Even if you dislike his arguments, his writing style is wonderfully unique.

Comment author: jkaufman 24 August 2013 02:50:57AM 2 points [-]

I just finished "First As Tragedy Then As Farce", and I'm a little disappointed. The book is full of pointing out contradictions and problems, suggesting interpretations, and criticizing everything left and right. While I found the writing style hard to follow and had lots of problems with the arguments, the main frustration was that he doesn't attempt to build anything up. You wrote that I "criticise Zizek for not giving any alternatives to (cultural) capitalism, and yet he clearly has never been in the same room as a Zizek book", but even now that I've read this book through I would make the same criticism. The closest he gets is saying that we need to make a fresh go of communism, from the beginning, but there's nothing about why we should expect better results this time or how we should go about it.