MugaSofer comments on Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality discussion thread, part 26, chapter 97 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: DanArmak 16 August 2013 08:40:20AM 8 points [-]

Simplest; The goblins, and wizard society just do not approve of outright theft, even from muggles, and there are magics that will reliably mark stolen goods.

That is the first suggestion that would actually work. It's just that I can't believe that the average wizard thinks of muggles as persons (or humans) that can be stolen from. It's less plausible than that they would care about the stability of the economy.

Besides, what magic can create, magic can destroy. People would invest serious effort in developing magic that would erase the "magical signature" of stolen gold if it would help them become billionaires.

More amusingly: I am not at all sure competent wizards have much need to care about coin at all.

The reason bribing people with money works in the first place, is that most people don't have as much money as they would like. If wizards didn't really need money, as you suggest, then they wouldn't care about it and couldn't be bribed.

Since money translates into power over others, Lucius too would always want more money.

Comment author: MugaSofer 21 August 2013 05:47:15PM 1 point [-]

It's just that I can't believe that the average wizard thinks of muggles as persons (or humans) that can be stolen from.

I don't know. They have a fairly insular view of the world, but putting them on a par with animals seems to be a fringe notion, albeit one popular with those in power (ie purebloods.)

The reason bribing people with money works in the first place, is that most people don't have as much money as they would like. If wizards didn't really need money, as you suggest, then they wouldn't care about it and couldn't be bribed.

Magical goods can be sold for money, and therefore are. You want a new broomstick? Pay up, bucko.

(Also, food is hard to create magically, according to canon, although God only knows how that works.)

Comment author: DanArmak 21 August 2013 08:50:30PM 1 point [-]

"Right? You're Muggles," said the boy. He smiled twistedly. "You have as much standing in the magical British legal system as mice. No wizard is going to care about any arguments you make about rights, about fairness, they won't even take the time to listen. You don't have any power, see, so they don't have to bother."

Admittedly he was overstating it to make a point, but it's still mostly true.