Salemicus comments on Humans are utility monsters - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Salemicus 22 August 2013 01:49:50PM 1 point [-]

Well, isn't the central end of humanity (nay all sentient life) contentment and ease?

Seems like a strange assumption. Indeed, the reverse is often argued, that the central end of life is to be constantly facing challenges, to never be content, that we should seek out not ease but difficulty.

"How dull it is to pause, to make an end, To rust unburnished, not to shine in use!"

Moreover, even if your assertion were true for humans, and even all mammals, we can imagine non-mammalian sentient life.

Comment author: namismybabe 25 August 2013 07:22:30PM 0 points [-]

So yeah.. all mammals do not avert painful situations and seek contented ones? If one kicks a dog, the dog actually likes that, or would not eventually fight against it? Isn't that part of the definition of sentience? Your point is essentially validating moving outside of one's comfort zone. However, I doubt many who advocate doing that would say humans don't by design seek situations of ease over situations of discomfort. Moving outside one's comfort zone via, say, learning to ride a bike is different from averting a stressful work or home environment.

As for non-mammals, well as humans are mammals, then I'm using our taxonomical order as a base. I don't know if the same applies to birds, reptiles or amphibians.