If I were a WBE
And here is the question: does that sentence describe an actual possibility or not?
What if you were a big database that simply stores an answer to every question I can ask you? Can you seriously consider the possibility that you are merely a database that does this purely mechanical operation? This database does not think, it just answers. For all I know you might be such a database, but I am pretty sure that I am not such a database nor would I want to be replaced with such a database.
Or let's consider two programs that take a string and always return zero. One runs a WBE twice, letting it input a number into a textbox, then returns the difference of those numbers (which is zero). Other just plain returns zero. Mathematically they are identical, physically they are distinct physical processes, if we are to proclaim that they are subjectively distinct (you could be living in one of them right now, but not in the other), then we consider two different physical systems that implement same mathematical function to be very distinct as far as being those systems goes.
Which of course makes problematic any arguments which argue that WBE must be same as biological brains based on some mathematical equivalence, as even within the WBEs, mathematical equivalence does not guarantee subjective equivalence.
(I for one think that brain simulators are physically similar enough to biological brains that I wouldn't mind being replaced by a brain simulation of me, but it's not because of some mathematical equivalence, it's because they are physically quite similar, unlike a database of every possible answer which would be physically very distinct. I'd be wary of doing extensive optimization of a brain simulation of me into something mathematically equivalent but simpler).
I've lost you here. What does "a choice of being" mean? What is this mapping that includes some... beings... and not others?
Well, your "if I were a WBE" is an example of you choosing a WBE for example purposes.
OK, I understand your position now. You're saying (correct me if I'm wrong) that when I have uncertainty about what is implementing "me" in the physical world - whether e.g. I'm a natural human, or a WBE whose inputs lie to it, or a completely different kind of simulated human - then if I rule out certain kinds of processes from being my implementations, that is called not believing these processes could be "conscious".
Could I be a WBE whose inputs are remotely connected to the biological body I see when I look down? (Ignoring the many ...
- Eliezer Yudkowsky, "Value is Fragile"
I had meant to try to write a long post for LessWrong on consciousness, but I'm getting stuck on it, partly because I'm not sure how well I know my audience here. So instead, I'm writing a short post, with my main purpose being just to informally poll the LessWrong community on one question: how sure are you that whole brain emulations would be conscious?
There's actually a fair amount of philosophical literature about issues in this vicinity; David Chalmers' paper "The Singularity: A Philosophical Analysis" has a good introduction to the debate in section 9, including some relevant terminology:
So, on the functionalist view, emulations would be conscious, while on the biological view, they would not be.
Personally, I think there are good arguments for the functionalist view, and the biological view seems problematic: "biological" is a fuzzy, high-level category that doesn't seem like it could be of any fundamental importance. So probably emulations will be conscious--but I'm not too sure of that. Consciousness confuses me a great deal, and seems to confuse other people a great deal, and because of that I'd caution against being too sure of much of anything about consciousness. I'm worried not so much that the biological view will turn out to be right, but that the truth might be some third option no one has thought of, which might or might not entail emulations are conscious.
Uncertainty about whether emulations would be conscious is potentially of great practical concern. I don't think it's much of an argument against uploading-as-life-extension; better to probably survive as an up than do nothing and die for sure. But it's worrisome if you think about the possibility, say, of an intended-to-be-Friendly AI deciding we'd all be better off if we were forcibly uploaded (or persuaded, using its superhuman intelligence, to "voluntarily" upload...) Uncertainty about whether emulations would be conscious also makes Robin Hanson's "em revolution" scenario less appealing.
For a long time, I've vaguely hoped that advances in neuroscience and cognitive science would lead to unraveling the problem of consciousness. Perhaps working on creating the first emulations would do the trick. But this is only a vague hope, I have no clear idea of how that could possibly happen. Another hope would be that if we can get all the other problems in Friendly AI right, we'll be able to trust the AI to solve consciousness for us. But with our present understanding of consciousness, can we really be sure that would be the case?
That leads me to my second question for the LessWrong community: is there anything we can do now to to get clearer on consciousness? Any way to hack away at the edges?