torekp comments on How sure are you that brain emulations would be conscious? - Less Wrong

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Comment author: torekp 25 August 2013 08:26:47PM 1 point [-]

This. Conscious experiences are a cause of behavior; they are not the behavior itself. We can get acceleration of iron particles toward an object without magnetism being the cause. Similarly, we should leave open the possibility that complex goal-oriented behavior is possible in the absence of experiences like pain, pleasure, itches, etc.

Comment author: Juno_Watt 25 August 2013 08:32:53PM 0 points [-]

I don't see the relevance. I was trying to argue that bioloigical claim could be read as more specific than the functional one.

Comment author: torekp 25 August 2013 08:57:04PM 0 points [-]

I was agreeing. And trying to elaborate the magnetism analogy. I'm looking to break the hold that functionalism has on so many lesswrongers, but I'm not sure how to go about it.