Creutzer comments on How sure are you that brain emulations would be conscious? - Less Wrong

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Comment author: lukstafi 25 August 2013 08:24:04PM *  1 point [-]

Isn't it sufficient for computationalism that WBEs are conscious and that experience would be identical in the limit of behavioral identity? My intent with the claim is to weaken computationalism -- accommodate some aspects of identity theory -- but not to directly deny it.

Comment author: Creutzer 26 August 2013 08:10:43AM *  1 point [-]

You seem to be suggesting that there are properties of the system that are relevant for the quality of its experiences, but are not computational properties. To get clearer on this, what kind of physical details do you have in mind, specifically?

Comment author: lukstafi 26 August 2013 09:55:15AM *  0 points [-]

I do not strongly believe the claim, just lay it out for discussion. I do not claim that experiences do not supervene on computations: they have observable, long-term behavioral effects which follow from the computable laws of physics. I just claim that in practice, not all processes in a brain will ever be reproduced in WBEs due to computational resource constraints and lack of relevance to rationality and the range of reported experiences of the subjects. Experiences can be different yet have roughly the same heterophenomenology (with behavior diverging only statistically or over long term).