wedrifid comments on Your Strength as a Rationalist - Less Wrong

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Comment author: wedrifid 09 August 2010 07:06:48PM 2 points [-]

So the fact that something was written somewhere is sufficient to meet your criteria for considering it evidence?

Yes. It's really sucky evidence.

I take it you have actually tried clicking your heels to check whether or not you would be teleported to Oz then?

This doesn't remotely follow and is far weaker evidence than other available sources. For a start, everyone knows that you get to Oz with tornadoes and concussions.

Also, does my signing my comments offend you?

It makes you look like an outsider who isn't able to follow simple social conventions and may have a tendency towards obstinacy. (Since you asked...)

Comment author: Dpar 09 August 2010 07:19:32PM *  0 points [-]

"This doesn't remotely follow and is far weaker evidence than other available sources. For a start, everyone knows that you get to Oz with tornadoes and concussions."

Let's not get bogged down in the specific procedure of getting to Oz. My point was that if you truly adapt merely seeing something written somewhere as your standard for evidence, you commit yourself to analyzing and weighing the merits of EVERYTHING you read about EVERYWHERE. Do you mean to tell that when you read a fairy tale you truly consider whether or not what's written there is true? That you don't just dismiss it offhand without giving it a second thought?

"It makes you look like an outsider who isn't able to follow simple social conventions and may have a tendency towards obstinacy. (Since you asked...)"

Like I said above to Vladimir, it's not a big deal, but you're reading quite a bit into a simple habit.

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Comment author: Dpar 10 August 2010 12:35:58PM -2 points [-]

Duly noted. God forbid I do something that annoys you. Won't be able to live with myself.

Comment author: ciphergoth 10 August 2010 12:41:33PM 5 points [-]

As always, I recommend against sarcasm, which can hide errors in reasoning that would be more obvious when you speak straightforwardly.

Comment author: Dpar 10 August 2010 01:16:17PM -2 points [-]

It was a comment on wedrifid's implicit assumption that I should care about what annoys him and bizarre expectation that I would adjust my behavior because I was "prompted" (not asked politely mind you) by him. Not sure what part of that is not obvious to you.

Comment author: JoshuaZ 10 August 2010 01:25:13PM 5 points [-]

Generally, when some minor formatting issue annoys a long-standing member of an internet community it is a good idea to listen to what they have to say. Many internet fora have standard rules about formatting and style that aren't explicitly expressed. These rules are convenient because they make reading easier for everyone. There's also a status/signaling aspect in that not using standard formatting signals someone is an outsider. Refusing to adopt standard format and styling signals an implicit lack of identification with a community. Even if one doesn't identify with a group, the effort it takes to conform to formatting norms is generally small enough that the overall gain is positive.

Comment author: Dpar 11 August 2010 11:55:52AM 2 points [-]

You're absolutely right. I have no problem using indentation for quotes, as a matter of fact I was wondering how to do that, it's his condescending tone that I took issue with. In retrospect though, I should have just ignored it, but let my temper get the best of me. I'll try to keep counter-productive comments to a minimum in the future.

Comment author: RobinZ 11 August 2010 10:08:59PM 0 points [-]

Indentation happens by putting a greater-than sign at the beginning of the line. Thus:

> The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog.

becomes

The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog.