calef comments on P/S/A - Sam Harris offering money for a little good philosophy - Less Wrong

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Comment author: calef 02 September 2013 04:06:36AM 4 points [-]

I got that impression as well. And to be honest, I haven't ever seen a good argument for why CEV has any fixed points in morality-space. Or rather, if fixed points exist, it's not immediately obvious to me why two distinct CEV-flows couldn't result in mutually irreconcilable value systems.

Which is why Sam's argument isn't super convincing to me.

Comment author: RomeoStevens 02 September 2013 10:38:09AM *  0 points [-]

I think he's essentially arguing that for any given set of minds, some CEV must exist. I do think he's somewhat confused in getting there though.

Comment author: Ishaan 02 September 2013 03:59:01PM *  0 points [-]

Harris's semantics would say that the human CEV is probably good while the alien CEV is something else.

Harris's semantics are actually somewhat similar to Eliezer's, actually.

http://lesswrong.com/lw/fv3/by_which_it_may_be_judged/