Eugine_Nier comments on Rationality Quotes September 2013 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Eugine_Nier 02 September 2013 04:15:32AM 20 points [-]

If you don’t study philosophy you’ll absorb it anyway, but you won’t know why or be able to be selective.

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Comment author: Viliam_Bur 07 September 2013 03:06:43PM 9 points [-]

It works similarly for psychology. People who study psychology learn dozen different explanations of human thinking and behavior, so the smarter among them know these things are far from settled, and perhaps there is no simple answer that explains everything. On the other hand, some people just read a random book on psychology, and they believe they understand everything completely.

Comment author: Eugine_Nier 09 September 2013 12:49:29AM 1 point [-]

Or don't read any books and simply pick it up by osmosis.

Comment author: DanArmak 02 September 2013 06:32:02PM 5 points [-]

The same is broadly true of e.g. pop music or politics: you can't really escape them. It's not necessarily a reason to study them, though.

Comment author: wedrifid 09 September 2013 08:02:36AM 3 points [-]

If you don’t study philosophy you’ll absorb it anyway, but you won’t know why or be able to be selective.

This seems true. What I am curious about is whether it remains true if you substitute "don't" with "do". Those that do study philosophy have not on average impressed me with their ability to discriminate among the bullshit.

Comment author: somervta 09 September 2013 09:28:55AM 1 point [-]

it seems to me that you are identifying 'study philosophy' as 'take philosophy courses/study academic philosophy/etc', which may not have been the intent of the OP

Comment author: somervta 02 September 2013 07:01:47AM 0 points [-]

Won't be as able to be selective, maybe, although many here would argue that studying philosophy will decrease the quality of your bullshit meter rather than improve it.

Comment author: private_messaging 03 September 2013 06:23:15PM *  8 points [-]

I think that is most definitely false, because many of the the ideas in philosophy contradict each other, and you get good exposure to contradictory good looking arguments, which teaches you to question such arguments in general.

Popular science books, on the other hand, often tend to explain true conclusions using fallacious arguments.

Comment author: RobbBB 04 September 2013 11:27:18PM 3 points [-]

To steel-man somervta's point, it might be that philosophy decreases the quality of your bullshit meter by making it overactive. I don't find it plausible that philosophy generally makes people hyper-credulous, but I could buy that it generally makes people hyperskeptical, quibbling, self-undermining, and/or directionless.