Salemicus comments on Rationality Quotes September 2013 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Salemicus 03 September 2013 07:20:38PM *  15 points [-]

[This claim] is like the thirteenth stroke of a crazy clock, which not only is itself discredited but casts a shade of doubt over all previous assertions.

A. P. Herbert, Uncommon Law.

Comment author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 04 September 2013 05:03:45AM 22 points [-]

Caution in applying such a principle seems appropriate. I say this because I've long since lost track of how often I've seen on the Internet, "I lost all respect for X when they said [perfectly correct thing]."

Comment author: Salemicus 04 September 2013 01:36:55PM 15 points [-]

I agree. It strengthens your point to note that, although the quote is normally used seriously, the author intended it mischievously. In context, the "thirteenth stroke" is a defendant, who has successfully rebutted all the charges against him, making the additional claim that "this [is] a free country and a man can do what he likes if he does nobody any harm."

This "crazy" claim convinces the judge to convict him anyway.

Comment author: wedrifid 13 September 2013 12:07:39AM 4 points [-]

Caution in applying such a principle seems appropriate. I say this because I've long since lost track of how often I've seen on the Internet, "I lost all respect for X when they said [perfectly correct thing]."

I don't lose all respect for X based on one thing they say, but I do increase my respect in them if the controversial or difficult things they say are correct and I conserve expected evidence.

Comment author: Zvi 04 September 2013 11:57:17AM 7 points [-]

For most people, is it necessarily wrong to lose all respect for someone in response to a true statement? Most people are respecting things other than truth, and the point "anyone respectable would have known not to say that" can remain perfectly valid.