Grant comments on Rationality Quotes September 2013 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Lumifer 04 September 2013 01:18:30AM *  0 points [-]

Some historians believe that American decision makers expected Japan to surrender soon and wanted to use atomic bombs before the end of the war, to demonstrate their power to the Soviets.

I favor this hypothesis, it seems to me the demonstration of the power of atomic bombs was as much for Stalin's benefit as it was for the Japanese leadership's. One can make a reasonable case that Hiroshima and Nagasaki were the real reason why the battle-hardened Soviet army stopped in Germany and didn't just roll over the rest of Western Europe.

Comment author: Grant 04 September 2013 01:56:42AM *  0 points [-]

That is no reason to drop the bomb on a city though; there are plenty of non-living targets that can be blown up to demonstrate destructive power. I suppose doing so wouldn't signal the will to use the atomic bomb, but in a time when hundreds of thousands died in air raids I would think such a thing would be assumed.

I suppose this highlights the fundamental problem of the era: the assumption that targeting civilians with bombs was the best course of action.

Comment author: Lumifer 04 September 2013 02:05:31AM 0 points [-]

If you drop a nuke on a Japanese city you kill three birds with one stone: you get to test how it works for intended use (remember, it was the first real test so uncertainty was high); you get to intimidate Japan into surrender; and you get to hint to Stalin that he should behave himself or else.

Comment author: Grant 04 September 2013 02:08:12AM 0 points [-]

True. Some sources indicate that some Japanese cities were left intact precisely so the American military could test the effects of a nuke!