Vaniver comments on Artificial explosion of the Sun: a new x-risk? - Less Wrong

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Comment author: BrotherNihil 02 September 2013 07:29:15PM *  0 points [-]

An obvious rejoinder to this is that while a Boeing 747 could assemble itself naturally by chance, the fact that we don't see any 747's occurring naturally isn't evidence for their impossibility. Therefore doesn't your point about no sun-like stars going nova only carry weight if we assume that there is other intelligent life in the observable universe?

As a side note, I read somewhere that John von Neumann once had an epiphany in which he imagined that supernovas were the final acts of civilizations that had learned to harness the power of nuclear fusion. We could even imagine von Neumann probes being constructed with this purpose, destroying every star in their forward causal cone. You have to admit, it would be a funny old universe if it turned out that such a thing were possible!

Comment author: gwern 02 September 2013 07:40:39PM 1 point [-]

Or nuclear bombs. Why could we apply the same argument here? "We never see any nuclear explosions on earth, either during human history or in the form of radioactive craters, therefore it is very implausible that if we combine specially crafted and refined substances we will get something like that."

Comment author: Vaniver 02 September 2013 10:47:30PM 2 points [-]

We never see any nuclear explosions on earth, either during human history or in the form of radioactive craters

Natural nuclear fission did occur on Earth, though it didn't leave a crater.

Comment author: gwern 02 September 2013 10:52:28PM 2 points [-]

And nuclear fusion is occurring naturally in the Sun and also not leaving craters. :)