Eliezer_Yudkowsky comments on I attempted the AI Box Experiment again! (And won - Twice!) - Less Wrong

36 Post author: Tuxedage 05 September 2013 04:49AM

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Comment author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 05 September 2013 04:58:46AM 10 points [-]

I am surprised if it is the case that any negative promise / threat by the AI was effective in-game, since I would expect the Gatekeeper player out-game to not feel truly threatened and hence to be able to resist such pressure even if it would be effective in real life. Did you actually attempt to use any of your stored-up threats?

Comment author: SoundLogic 05 September 2013 05:13:46AM *  8 points [-]

I think your reasoning is mostly sound, but there are a few exceptions (which may or may not have happened in our game) that violate your assumptions.

I'm also somewhat curious how your techniques contrast with Tuxedage's. I hope to find out one day.

Comment author: FourFire 06 September 2013 05:37:00PM 1 point [-]

I too hope to find out one day, preferrably in the not too near future.

Comment author: DSherron 06 September 2013 06:19:11AM 2 points [-]

It seems that mild threats, introduced relatively late while immersion is strong, might be effective against some people. Strong threats, in particular threats which pattern-match to the sorts of threats which might be discussed on LW (and thus get the gatekeeper to probably break some immersion) are going to be generally bad ideas. But I could see some sort of (possibly veiled/implied?) threat working against the right sort of person in the game. Some people can probably be drawn into the narrative sufficiently to get them to actually react in some respects as though the threat was real. This would definitely not apply to most people though, and I would not be shocked to discover that getting to the required level of immersion isn't humanly feasible except in very rare edge cases.