NancyLebovitz comments on Military Rationalities and Irrationalities - Less Wrong

21 Post author: pscheyer 09 September 2013 11:48PM

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Comment author: GeraldMonroe 10 September 2013 06:25:14PM 8 points [-]

The reason while you had limited instruction in shooting a weapon was probably due to a related problem I observed.

The military spends lavish sums on expensive capital equipment and human resources, but it seems to pinch pennies on the small stuff. For example, I recall being assigned numerous times to various cleanup details, and noticed we would never have any shortage of manpower - often 10+ people, but there would be an acute shortage of mops, cleaning rags, and chemicals.

Similarly, we all had rifles, but live ammunition to train with was in very short supply. I would mentally compute how backwards this was. It costs the government several hundred dollars in pay and benefits to have each one of us standing around for a day, yet they were pinching pennies on ammo that cost maybe 10 cents a round.

I don't know what causes these backwards situations, where you would be drowning in expensive equipment and people yet critically short of cheap, basic supplies, but I've seen many references to the problem.

Comment author: NancyLebovitz 11 September 2013 12:53:00AM 3 points [-]

For both you and hyporational, which countries are you talking about?

Comment author: hyporational 11 September 2013 05:40:29PM *  2 points [-]

Finland. Please don't scheme to invade us or we'll mop you to submission.

I was exaggerating a bit. What I mean there was no hope of becoming any good with the minimal training. I have fired and know how to handle a pistol, an assault rifle, a machine gun, a shotgun, a sniper rifle, a bazooka, an antiaircraft gun and have thrown a live grenade once. Can't really hit anything with them...

I'm not sure if the lack of training was because of pinching pennies on ammo, but I wouldn't be surprised because of all the other kinds of nonsense. We had an abundance of mops, though.

Comment author: pscheyer 12 September 2013 11:03:13PM 0 points [-]

American Air Force is the same.