somervta comments on The Ultimate Newcomb's Problem - Less Wrong

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Comment author: somervta 10 September 2013 03:46:13AM *  0 points [-]

2-box on one-off [Edit: on rereading, this comes off as more confident than I intended. This was what I thought I would do in the 2 minutes, which in retrospect were spent unproductively], but the one-off nature of the problem is modified by the third paragraph, which means that strategy might mean one-boxing previously got me no money. I would interpret that as less-than-perfect accuracy (which might be the source of the 99.9% probability) How does Omega deal with mixed strategies?

Comment author: notsonewuser 11 September 2013 09:47:14PM *  0 points [-]

How does Omega deal with mixed strategies?

In normal Newcomb, I believe the standard treatment is that e leaves the black box empty in those cases. So, in this problem, I guess e would unconditionally select a composite number for eir box. With that specification, (two-boxing unconditionally) weakly dominates any unconditional mixed strategy, both in original Newcomb and this problem.

Comment author: polarix 10 September 2013 02:13:45PM *  0 points [-]

I did not interpret paragraph 3 to contain any information about prior payouts... For instance, if one were to 1-box (successfully!) in every case that did not have such a lottery hedge, it would appear consistent with the problem statement to me.

Comment author: somervta 10 September 2013 08:58:11PM 0 points [-]

You previously played the game with Omega and the Numerical Lottery a few thousand times before.

it tells you that there were prior payouts.

Comment author: polarix 11 September 2013 05:03:08AM 0 points [-]

Ah, well, it tells us that there were prior games.

Comment author: somervta 11 September 2013 05:31:40AM 0 points [-]

If I didn't get prior payouts from those games, the updates on that is way bigger than any other reasoning such as what we're doing on this thread.