private_messaging comments on Notes on Brainwashing & 'Cults' - Less Wrong

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Comment author: private_messaging 14 September 2013 02:34:17PM *  1 point [-]

Well, it still seems odd that with different set ups of e.g. Milgram experiment, various conformity experiments, and such, around 2/3 is the number rather than some dramatically different fraction (which suggests that in practice the change in susceptibility is greater around that percentile, which is of course what I meant). There really is no data to use to get any sort of specific number for North Korea, at all, but if you have to guess you have to name something. I'd be cautious of over-estimating the power of brainwashing over there. Especially considering how many people they did have to put through prison camps and such.

Comment author: ChristianKl 14 September 2013 08:13:03PM 1 point [-]

Depending on the specifics which get used during the Milgram experiment you get different results. It matters whether the person being tortured is in the same room. Whether or not you use a setting that gives you 2/3 of the people is arbitary.