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Comment author: buybuydandavis 28 September 2013 11:28:03AM 3 points [-]

So what I’d need, clearly, is some system that justifies hurting others. Politics are great for this! Just have some people like Ayn Rand spread ideas like unmitigated greed being good, and presto! You get a whole bunch of people who now feel justified in spending all of their combined human ingenuity to hurting each other in an attempt to get ahead in society.

Somehow displays of Ayn Rand Derangement Syndrome still surprise me. And it still surprises me that no one else will call anyone on it around here.

The author should be ashamed to have written this, and the rest of you should be ashamed to have let it pass without comment.

Comment author: pragmatist 28 September 2013 01:39:19PM *  5 points [-]

I didn't call it out because I'm not at all familiar with Rand's philosophy, and while Sophronius's characterization does read like a caricature, it's a caricature that is pretty common in the (primarily left-wing) circles I frequent.

I would have appreciated your call-out a lot more if you had explained what is wrong with Sophronius's description, rather than immediately ascending to the meta level.

Comment author: buybuydandavis 28 September 2013 10:57:42PM 9 points [-]

it's a caricature that is pretty common in the (primarily left-wing) circles I frequent.

Shouldn't that give you pause? Give left wing people pause?

There is a general pattern on the left of attributing evil motives to their opponents as opposed to understanding their positions. (A comment supported by Haidt's research). But Rand, in not just disagreeing but rejecting the moral premises of the left, seems to have made herself their absolute bogeyman. I can't think of anyone who receives the same level of lasting hatred and abuse, and most all of it displaying a complete ignorance of what she said, with the latest here a glaring case in point.

I didn't explain further about Objectivism because you shouldn't need to know the details to recognize this as a drive by character assassination, and it seems you didn't.

And yes, it happens all the time in some circles. Isn't that all the more reason to point it out?