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Comment author: TheOtherDave 03 October 2013 02:20:35AM 6 points [-]

we are at a point in history where the instrumental value of people dominates the intrinsic.

On your view, has this ever been false? If we can justify treating people as means rather than ends now, I can't imagine a time when we couldn't justify it.

Comment author: [deleted] 03 October 2013 05:05:14AM 3 points [-]

Yes, in the grand scheme of things, the overwhelming value of historically existing humans is in enabling our glorious future, and this has always been true so far.

(Not to understate the awesomeness produced so far, just that so much more is possible)

At least, that's, like, my opinion, man.

Comment author: TheOtherDave 03 October 2013 02:35:54PM 3 points [-]

OK, cool.

And sure, I was just making sure I understood your position; your emphasis on the point we are in history left me uncertain whether there was some other point where it wasn't true.

I now feel compelled to add that to the extent that I expect you to act accordingly I will avoid you having power over anyone I care about, as I distrust the willingness to sacrifice existing people in order to enable a vision of our glorious future. That sort of thing has an iffy hit rate with humans; we tend to be overconfident about our specific details of our visions of glorious futures.