hairyfigment comments on How to Become a 1000 Year Old Vampire - Less Wrong

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Comment author: hairyfigment 04 October 2013 05:21:59PM 2 points [-]

Like I said, I don't think you're evil. I think you espoused an evil position or preference, which may well contradict other and more real preferences. I think you're looking at a ridiculously small sliver of the real world and using that to conclude that the status quo is fine. (Or you're pattern-matching wildly, which has now grown in probability.)

Comment author: Lumifer 04 October 2013 06:35:19PM 3 points [-]

Now that you've brought this word into the conversation, would you care to define "evil"?

Comment author: hairyfigment 04 October 2013 06:53:01PM 1 point [-]
Comment author: Moss_Piglet 04 October 2013 07:35:01PM 3 points [-]

I think you meant to link to this page, but I'm still not sure how either relates to the question.

Maybe we can taboo 'evil' and replace it with something like "immoral within <insert moral system here>' to get a firmer sense of your specific objection.

Comment author: Lumifer 04 October 2013 07:45:50PM 2 points [-]

The difference between "evil" and "immoral within <insert moral system here>" is that evil must be fought with and eradicated, if necessary without taking prisoners and leaving scorched earth behind. Now, "immoral", that we can talk about, is it cool and sexy?

Comment author: hairyfigment 04 October 2013 07:46:39PM 3 points [-]

If I haven't already said enough, then it looks like one of the following holds:

  1. You have effectively no empathy and I don't want you to model me accurately.

  2. You share my basic goals, but believe we can't do much better at achieving them. Your earlier strawman really indicated that you see us as foolish dreamers.

Either way, further talk of morality seems counter-productive.