James_Miller comments on Rationality Quotes October 2013 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: James_Miller 04 October 2013 03:15:19AM 8 points [-]

Well designed traditions and protocols will contain elements that cause most subcompetent people to not want to throw them out.

Comment author: player_03 06 October 2013 04:01:31AM *  9 points [-]

Well designed traditions and protocols will contain elements that cause most competent people to not want to throw them out.

Comment author: James_Miller 06 October 2013 05:47:15PM 2 points [-]

No. If an organization contains sub-competent people, it should take this into account when designing traditions and protocols.

Comment author: scav 07 October 2013 11:39:36AM 7 points [-]

Corollary: all organisations eventually contain sub-competent people. Design protocols accordingly.

Comment author: Moss_Piglet 06 October 2013 05:53:36PM 2 points [-]

If an organization contains sub-competent people, it's traditions and protocols need to ensure those people are quickly and reliably thrown out themselves.

Comment author: Eugine_Nier 06 October 2013 06:07:44PM 1 point [-]

Not necessarily, sub-competent people can still be useful, e.g., unskilled labor is a thing.

Comment author: Moss_Piglet 06 October 2013 06:37:27PM *  5 points [-]

Unskilled and sub-competent are not synonyms in this context; even a ditch-digger can be competent, it just means they dig quickly regularly and with a minimum of fuss. And not arbitrarily throwing out protocols for momentary convenience is a matter of both maintaining regularity and minimizing fuss, so I shouldn't have to worry about the ditch-digging committee making a mess of things so long as they all have their heads screwed on straight.

Comment author: Viliam_Bur 16 October 2013 09:08:59AM 1 point [-]

Therefore, a reliable method for evaluating competency needs to be part of the traditions and protocols. Otherwise it's just a question of time...