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Comment author: pragmatist 07 October 2013 07:33:05AM 1 point [-]

Sure, but who claims/acts as if isolated facts do produce a science? This seems to be taking down a strawman.

Also, the analogy is misleading. A heap of bricks arranged in the right way with the right sorts of mutual connectors does produce a house. However, even an appropriately arranged and connected set of facts does not produce a science. At best, it produces a theory, which is a product of a science, but not a science itself. Science is more akin to architecture than to a house.

Comment author: kamerlingh 07 October 2013 07:38:09PM 6 points [-]

Sure, but who claims/acts as if isolated facts do produce a science?

Science classes, especially before high school level, are often taught as though science is just a collection facts about trees or dinosaurs or whatever. Anyone who hasn't had the benefit of a good science program in their school might continue to think that science is just experiments to generate facts.

Comment author: RichardKennaway 07 October 2013 11:20:55AM *  4 points [-]

Sure, but who claims/acts as if isolated facts do produce a science? This seems to be taking down a strawman.

Korzybski is not here arguing against anything, but making an exposition. I won't type in the whole passage (which is only a Google search away anyway), but the quotation is from the beginning of chapter 4, entitled "On Structure", which is the first chapter of the second section of Science and Sanity, entitled "General on Structure". The first section, of three chapters, was introductory, an overture. He begins the main opera by drawing attention to two clear trends in the development of science: the increasing reliance on experiments, and the increase of verbal rigour. "The second tendency has an importance equal to that of the first; a number of isolated facts does not produce a science any more than a heap of bricks produces a house. The isolated facts must be put in order and brought into mutual structural relations in the form of some theory. Then, only, do we have a science."