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Comment author: CoffeeStain 14 October 2013 11:49:56PM *  2 points [-]

Whenever I have a philosophical conversation with an artist, invariably we end up talking about reductionism, with the artist insisting that if they give up on some irreducible notion, they feel their art will suffer. I've heard, from some of the world's best artists, notions ranging from "magic" to "perfection" to "muse" to "God."

It seems similar to the notion of free will, where the human algorithm must always insist it is capable of thinking about itself on level higher. The artist must always think of his art one level higher, and try to tap unintentional sources of inspiration. Nonreductionist views of either are confusions about how an algorithm feels on the inside.

Comment author: Ishaan 15 October 2013 12:04:16AM *  2 points [-]

I don't think that this is an artist problem- I think this is a human problem, which a few scientists and philosophers have been forced to overcome in pursuit of truth.

their art will suffer

Too many people have straw-vulcan notions of reductionism. (tvtropes warning)

Comment author: anandjeyahar 16 October 2013 09:55:11PM 0 points [-]

I've heard, from some of the world's best artists, notions ranging from "magic" to "perfection" to "muse" to "God."

Elizabeth Gilbert presents a reasonably practical justification for the use of such a concept. See [here] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86x-u-tz0MA). Warning: TED talk and generous use of "reasonable"