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Comment author: Mestroyer 05 October 2013 06:20:28AM 40 points [-]

The market doesn't give a shit how hard you worked. Users just want your software to do what they need, and you get a zero otherwise. That is one of the most distinctive differences between school and the real world: there is no reward for putting in a good effort. In fact, the whole concept of a "good effort" is a fake idea adults invented to encourage kids. It is not found in nature.

--Paul Graham (When I saw this quote, I thought it had to have been posted before, but googling turned up nothing.)

Comment author: hankx7787 27 October 2013 02:28:27PM 4 points [-]

Completely wrong.

As a software engineer at a company with way too much work to go around, I can tell you that making a "good effort" goes a long way. 90% of the time you don't have to "make it work or get a zero". As long as you are showing progress you can generally keep the client happy (or at least not firing you) as you get things done, even if you are missing deadlines. And this seems very much normal to me. I'm not sure where in the market you have to "make it work or get a zero". I'm not even convinced that exists.

Comment author: Mestroyer 27 October 2013 04:41:02PM 2 points [-]

The essay is about startups. Perhaps they are different from your company. Also, getting things done but not in time for deadlines is not the same as not getting them done but making a good effort.

Comment author: Eugine_Nier 27 October 2013 08:48:59PM -1 points [-]

As long as you are showing progress you can generally keep the client happy (or at least not firing you) as you get things done,

But eventually you do have to make sure that things are done and work.

Comment author: Grant 29 November 2013 02:53:28AM 0 points [-]

The quote refers to the (end) market and users, not the internal workings of a software development firm.