apophenia comments on The best 15 words - Less Wrong

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Comment author: paulfchristiano 03 October 2013 05:30:26PM 5 points [-]

To the mathematicians, correlation is a statement about random variables, and not the same as empirical correlation (which is a statement about samples, and might be spurious).

Of course the world isn't made of random variables, but only in the same sense that the world isn't made of causal models. They are models, and "correlation" and "causation" are features of the model which don't exist in the real world. In a causal model, correlation implies causation (somewhere).

Comment author: apophenia 03 October 2013 08:18:49PM *  -2 points [-]

thanks, this is exactly the case. a better objection is, it's not strictly true because things can be some complex net of the above cases, and it doesn't always break down into one of the four, but that doesn't fit in "15" words, and it's less important

edit: also it's possible in rare cases for things to be uncorrelated but causally connected