philh comments on How habits work and how you may control them - Less Wrong

64 Post author: Kaj_Sotala 12 October 2013 12:17PM

You are viewing a comment permalink. View the original post to see all comments and the full post content.

Comments (76)

You are viewing a single comment's thread. Show more comments above.

Comment author: hyporational 13 October 2013 02:47:36PM *  4 points [-]

Thanks for the thought provoking article!

When they saw their old cues, however, they unthinkingly pressed the lever and ate the food, or they walked across the floor, even as they vomited or jumped from the electricity. The habit was so ingrained the mice couldn’t stop themselves.

I'm not sure whether to believe this applies to more complex mammals. The McDonald's example is problematic, because the punishment isn't immediate. Were there any other examples of what happens if you replace/follow the reward with punishment? Replacing every harmful habit with a useful one seems like a lot of work.

I've been thinking about self-administering mild electric shocks or something of the like when I pursue an unwanted behaviour, but lack an appropriate device. Any suggestions, anyone?

People with damage to the basal ganglia

Usually caused by Parkinson's disease. Using a familiar word might give people a better idea of what you're talking about.

Comment author: philh 13 October 2013 05:00:29PM 6 points [-]

I've been thinking about self-administering mild electric shocks or something of the like when I pursue an unwanted behaviour, but lack an appropriate device. Any suggestions, anyone?

I've heard of someone having success wearing an elastic band around his wrist and snapping it as punishment.

Comment author: hyporational 13 October 2013 05:35:10PM *  1 point [-]

This sounds doable and less crazy and expensive than an electric shock device. I think the sensation caused is pretty similar to an electric shock, too.